Why doesn't Gloucester allow Internet providers such as Metrocast to come into rural neighborhoods to install high speed internet? Each independent company contacted says that due to a Cox contract with Gloucester County they are forbidden to install high speed cable. If you have a Gloucester address, Cox has the monopoly. As an example, Cobbs Creek, Susan, etc. has high speed Internet since Metrocast saw the need. The very county that says we need more internet availability is blocking residents from options other than Cox. Why would Gloucester County agree to a contract like this? No progress has been made in the last decade with providing high speed internet to those of us without it. Regular updates would also be helpful or at the very least, a 2-, 5- or 10-year plan would be helpful.

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County Administration admin 8 months ago

Thank you for your comment. Cox Communications has a non-exclusive franchise agreement to provide cable television services in Gloucester. Our market is completely open to other providers. The county does not use general tax revenue to subsidize access to internet services and as such each provider must make decisions to enter our market based on their projected financial viability.

Commercial viability is a known issue in rural areas due to the density of potential customers compared with the cost of capital infrastructure needed to support a given area. The County is seeking to understand ways to encourage broader access to internet services and while many do not want to hear about more studies, it is in fact where we find ourselves as a community.

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Kenny Hogge Sr 8 months ago

Wonder how much has been spent on studies and other such endeavors over the past 20 years......................

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Mark Rakentine 7 months ago

Maybe you could study the surrounding rural counties....most of which have already solved the internet/cable issue that Gloucester has deemed insurmountable....

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Teresa Harmon 7 months ago

Thank you for the information regarding non-exclusive franchise agreement and the commercial viability issue in rural areas.

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County Administration admin 7 months ago

Thank you for the suggestion Mr. Rakentine. Staff has reviewed broadband efforts in neighboring (and more far reaching) counties. For example, Mathews has had some success with small scale broadband advanced by private companies using "data poles". In an effort to be as accommodating as possible, Gloucester also allows data poles. King and Queen introduced a wireless system available to citizens with moderate speeds serving a limited portion of their population. The capital infrastructure cost of the K&Q system was largely underwritten by the community's need for broadband service to their schools. Without that investment, the overall model would not have been cost effective.

Gloucester would be very interested in hearing from citizens with concepts to expand broadband service to additional citizens at a cost that all citizens would support.

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Mark Rakentine 7 months ago

Signawave (formerly Northern Neck Wireless) has the data pole technology to serve rural areas, and does have a small presence in Gloucester. There packages are very reasonable for unlimited data internet. In my several conversations with them, it became clear to me that while they have the technology, they do not have the manpower or available funding to expand into the areas that really need their services. When half of your taxpayers still cannot get internet 25 years after it's inception, while tax $$$ are constantly wasted on surveys, the words "cost effective" lose credibility. So, instead of funding surveys with every yearly budget (which to this point have clearly gotten us nowhere) why not subsidize a small company like Signawave? After being left behind on the internet/cable front for so long, I would think that many of these taxpayers would rather see their tax dollars go to an actual physical solution, as opposed to yet another "kick the can down the road" survey....which as history has shown us, will not lead to a real solution.

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M Westfall 7 months ago

Thank you Mark. I agree with your comment. In addition to Signawave, Metrocast is another company providing high speed internet to areas in Mathews, Northern Neck, etc. However, the Metrocast owners were under the impression that Gloucester County's contract with Cox Communications prevent them from contacting residents. According to Gloucester County, the contract does not forbid Metrocast of other internet providers from coming into the county. There seems to be a huge communication problem and no one leading the charge to get high speed internet into homes in rural areas. I also agree that our tax money is wasted on survey after survey (I could set up a survey for the county that would be free and offers immediate findings). Someone in the county needs to step up to plate and admit that the lack of internet is unacceptable and then, actually do something about it. In our neighborhood, there are school children who can't do their work, residents who could work from home and small businesses that could be launched if there was high speed internet available. There are houses in our neighborhood that can't/don't sell for the sheer fact there is no available internet. That's sad since this is 2016. The county also never communicates to residents about this ongoing dilemma simply because there is no work being done and therefore no news. Perhaps if the county offices didn't have high speed internet than this problem would become a priority.

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Darren McMurray 5 months ago

Maybe you should define non-exclusive franchise agreement as stated within the Cox agreement or upload a pdf file on that particular agreement. I am curious as should all be if Gloucester defines a specific geographic territory and provides the franchisee with certain territorial protections against competition which still remains non-exclusive because it does not pertain to the entire county. This type of agreement would be designed to place a burden on other suppliers making new ventures in cable service non-profitable.

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County Administration admin 5 months ago

Thank you for your continued interest. In essence, the franchise agreement with Cox Communications for cable television stipulates that the County is entitled to grant additional franchises for a system with another entity so long as it incorporates material terms and conditions that are comparable to, or more restrictive than, the terms of the Cox Communications agreement.

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M Westfall 5 months ago

Thank you County Administration. Could you provide a contact name of someone with the county who would be willing to speak with other companies regarding other companies installing high speed internet into rural neighborhoods? For example, Metrocast keeps saying that they are unable to reach a person who will confirm that it is ok to proceed. Our neighborhood HOA has also tried to reach out to a contact within the county only to be disconnected, left on hold or sent to a random voice mail. Thank you in advance for this information.

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Darren McMurray 5 months ago

That is what it states in the franchise agreement. Here is the problem, the people are upset because Cox Cable is refusing service to some of the residents here due to location. I know matter of fact Cox cable has stated for one location to pay $18,000 to have a cable ran down a road with 5 houses. That according to the contract agreement is a breech. As stated in the agreement... GLOUCESTER COUNTY COX COMMUNICATIONS CABLE TELEVISION FRANCHISE RENEWAL AGREEMENT February 15, 2011 Section 2(7). Territorial Area Involved. This Franchise is granted for the Service Area defined in Section 1 (2)(y). Access to Cable Service shall not be denied to any group of potential cable Subscribers because of the income of the potential cable Subscribers or the area in which such group resides. Section 1(2)(y). "Service Area" or "Franchise Area" means the entire geographic area within the County as it is now constituted or may in the future be constituted. Section 1(2)(j)"County" means the County of Gloucester, Virginia. "Group" is not defined in the contract "Potential Subscribers" is not defined in the contract Section 1(2)(v). "Person" is any Person, firm, partnership, association, company, limited liability entity or other legal entity. Section 12(7). Grantee Acknowledgment of Validity of Franchise. Grantee acknowledges that it has had an opportunity to review the terms and conditions of this Franchise and that under current law Grantee believes that said terms and conditions are not unreasonable or arbitrary, and that Grantee believes County has the power to make the terms and conditions contained in this Franchise.

As shown in the Franchise Agreement between Gloucester County and Cox Communications. The grantee being Cox Has agreed to provide service to the entire geographic of Gloucester County and has failed to do so. This failure to comply with said Franchise Agreement constitutes a breech in said agreement and the County of Gloucester has the power to void said Franchise Agreement. The people in Gloucester are requesting services already agreed upon by and contracted to Cox Communications. With this information brought to light the people do not require another outside source to provide cabled internet. What the people are requesting and have been requesting for several years is for the current service provider to correct and remedy its breech in contract. The County of Gloucester is obligated by law to enforce all contract obligations or to consider such contracts that are in violation, void. I yeild to the County Administration

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M Westfall 5 months ago

Great information Darren McMurray -- thank you! Cox told our neighborhood of 17 houses that it would cost $20,000 to install cable services; however, when the developer agreed to pay it, they backed down and said there needed to be 25 houses within a mile. Needless to say, Cox changes the 'rules' based on what they want to do at any given time or what will make them the most money. It will be interesting to see how the county responds and if any action will be taken. This has gone on long enough. Thank you again for the information.

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Mark Rakentine 5 months ago

Darren McMurray...Thank you for that information. So County Administration, what will you do for the thousands of taxpayers that Cox has refused to service....clearly in breach of their contract? I am one of these taxpayers that has been told that my neighborhood, of 18 houses, was "not large enough for Cox to consider servicing". The time for surveys is over. The days of me (and many others) contacting the BOS looking for help (that never comes) should be over as well. The time is now for the Gloucester County Government to real take action on our behalf.....will you finally do it?

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Zac Stein 5 months ago

You guys might want to take a look at this article about a bill currently in the GA: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/01/virginia-broadband-deployment-act-would-kill-municipal-broadband-deployment/

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Zac Stein 5 months ago

Also I live in a low income neighborhood that currently has cox and we have seen them constantly raise their rates for at least the past 6 months. What does the county plan to do about that?

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Darren McMurray 5 months ago

Thanks for that link. Kathy Byron is looking to retire and is going to do whatever it takes to ensure her retirement is extremely comfortable no matter who she hurts in the process. In a nutshell Kathy Byron would hand over our infrastructure to corporations under the claim they are better suited. Our infrastructure is our problem. When you give up the right to progress whats left is to digress. Be progressive and write your delagate to vote against handing over our infrastructure to corporations. Kathy Bryon has received $68,850 dollars in donations from telecommunications corporations.

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Darren McMurray 5 months ago

The franchise agreement has been in affect since February 15, 2011. The franchise term is 5 years with a one time renewal of another 5 years. This policy has been renewed and should terminate in the year 2021. The only response from the county was a misleading response. I say this because they only shared the part of the contract with you that showed other companies were free to franchise here.This in itself was a deception. Granted, other companies are able to come here however, they failed to inform you that the franchise agreement stated that Cox would service all of Gloucester regardless of income and location. This failure to disclose to the public constitutes corruption. There is no way around that. Just like when they forcibly removed the gay pride exhibit from our public libraries and quickly acted to hush it up. That constitutes corruption. I can recount corruption in this county back to 20 years or better. Like the time when I was only 12 and watched the police beat my neighbor in his back yard and he wasn't even fighting back. He got paid by the way. Problem is, we need to act on it. We have the political power to remove these corrupt officials. If you are afraid of retribution like they did before when they sued the residents for suing them then simply use your vote to kick them out. They have showed time and again they could care less what you have to say. This county will not stand in your defense. You have been asking for cable for years and they have in simple terms, deemed you unworthy. As Mr. Stein has stated, this county does not have the job force for the people to afford to live here. The Walmart area shows that the county has no intention of bringing in or attracting affordable living jobs. Our power company is a monopoly, our cable company is a monopoly and our county is willing to take your money to conduct surveys that have no value to the public whatsoever. I would safely doubt there is not one part of our county that is not corrupt. They have already admitted to deleting a comment here that had to do with social services. We do not know if that comment was critical or not. This is an open forum, deleting a comment that is not defamatory in nature towards you or I is a violation of the 1st Amendment. I personally want that deleted comment reinstated. I came back to this site because I was witnessing an extremely low growth rate in affordable living jobs. When I saw there was hardly anyone here I wanted this site advertised. I quickly found I was wrong in that matter. At the same time I decided to become involved in other ideas here. It didn't take but a minute to notice something was wrong. What we need to understand and realize is it is up to us, the public to inform the public. There is a lot of people in this county that have been mislead. I've seen it on the sheriff's office facebook page. If you believe they do a great job for us, I beg you to rethink that. Do some research, learn everything. All the websites forums they have, this one, the sheriff's office facebook and the county facebook, they are all open forums and all violate the 1st Amendment and yes that is verifiable. Just so you know, this is what a critical comment is. If it gets deleted then my 1st Amendment rights will have become violated. Simple fact and provable. America has decided to fight back. The federal government, Hilary Clinton, Democrats, the Globalist, there not only in the federal government, they are in all state and local governments as well. We are taking back America but we also have to take back our state and counties. It is up to us to help our neighbors see the truth. Our voice will determine the future of our children. I demand my children to be free, even if it cost me my life. Wake up Gloucester!

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County Administration admin 5 months ago

It is very good that there continues to be dialog about this issue that is very important to the Board of Supervisors and staff. We also appreciate the frustration expressed by many.

In an effort to provide as open a discussion as possible, a copy of the Cox Communications Cable Television Franchise agreement was provided to Mr. McMurray via email. It is a public document and available to those with interest. Others may email county.administrator@gloucesterva.info with a request for the document.

With this said, no one section of the agreement can be considered in absence of all others. The pertinent section of the agreement that that speaks to "line extensions" is included in Section 4.9. That section states that Cox must extend service in areas where there is an equivalent density of 25 residential units per one cable mile of system. In addition, they must connect residential or commercial units located within 200 feet of an existing tap to the the system without charge other than the standard installation charge.

Dialog is very important and the community as a whole benefits as more people become engaged and share their vision for the community with your elected leaders.

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Darren McMurray 5 months ago

That merely states a conflict of interest within the contract itself. Thanks for exposing that to the public. I really wasn't trying to make the contract voidable, merely correctable. Double standards seem to be a frequent form of trickery in our government today. I would also gladly share the e-mail sent to me. My debate is not one sided, it is based on the facts presented. Bottom line stated in the contract and agreed upon is Cox would service all of Gloucester county regardless of income and location. Your comment is like stating you have free water for one dollar. It's a double standard and a conflict of interest.

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D Hunley 5 months ago

I have a home in a very nice developed community in Gloucester County. There are several undeveloped lots around me. The potential in these lots is unrealized because no one is going to commit $1M+ in a lot/home that can't have HSI. So, Gloucester is missing out on significant tax revenue because it is "studying the issue" while it waits for a solution to fall in their lap. That's irresponsible leadership. It's time for a real leader within the county to emerge and lead Gloucester smartly through this. So far, it's only been irresponsible buck passing and shallow thinking. I am hopeful that someone will emerge and LEAD!

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Chelsie Rice 5 months ago

Found a great house but the cell and internet problems your county is facing is making me walk away. I loved the house and land but can't spend my money in a county I can't communicate with the world in. :(

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tracy ke 4 months ago

We also found a beautiful home we want to buy but just found out there is NO high speed internet! How ridiculous!

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Mark Rakentine 4 months ago

So where has the "County Administration" been regarding this thread? They respond here to our questions whenever there is another "internet study" to be budgeted. But now that it is clear that Cox has broken their contract, and we the taxpayers want action they have been silent. Please respond here (or anywhere for that matter) to let us know how you will be dealing with Cox communications. We have a right to know.

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Zac Stein 4 months ago

Of course they aren't responding, they only want the appearance that they care about us, not that they actually do. Sad that happens here at the local level where the citizen voice should be number 1

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M Westfall 4 months ago

I have asked questions regarding specific items and no one from the county responds to those questions; just blanket statements not addressing the issue being discussed. And, why do they hide behind the heading County Administration? Is it the same person responding, and in many cases, NOT responding? If so, why don't they list their name and contact information? I would much rather have personal conversations instead of having to complain in a forum. I asked for a contact name 24 days ago and my comment ignored. And, to those who aren't buying houses because of the lack of internet, you are smart people. If I had known what I know now when buying a house in Gloucester, we would have purchased elsewhere. Gloucester County isn't looking at the big picture and realizing how much revenue they are losing by not having high speed internet available to every one. I posted my original comment 4 months ago and no action has been taken, no communication given and no action plan presented. I guess they are hoping we will all get bored and stop complaining. I am disappointed in our elected officials, the county I live in and in Cox Communications since it was their president who stated that ALL areas of Gloucester would have access to high speed internet no later than 2013. Well, here it is 2017, and Cox hasn't expanded into any additional areas. The county needs a contract with a company that is committed to doing what they say and taking care of its residents. Instead the county is only taking care of its relationship with Cox. Something is wrong and it needs to be addressed.

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D Hunley 4 months ago

Marsha, you are spot on. I feel I am just frustrating myself and wasting my time on this "forum". I'm taking my issue eye-to-eye with our county. We'll have supporters and distract its. Wish us all luck ... and, November is coming.

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David Hall 4 months ago

We have been looking in, around or near Gloucester for Home or Property to build, however HSI is our first priority. Viewed hundreds of possibilities and made at least 4 trips only to discover HSI is not available. I was the first home in my county to get FIOS. I can not foresee DSL or data caps or expensive options that eat up my retirement. It is shameful that both the Federal and Local Governments putting so much emphasis on using the internet, Yet not providing the necessary accesses to it. As a Nation, we do Not even rank in the top 12 behind the rest of the world with connection speeds. This according to "Akamai Q4 2015 global average connection speeds rankings". I blame both National and Local governments for not supporting such a valuable infrastructure.

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Mark Rakentine 4 months ago

David Hall, This internet issue in Gloucester is not going away anytime soon. I personally have been in contact with the BOS for years on the topic, and I get the same uninspiring answers now that I did in 2006, and I have the emails to prove it. There are also several threads in this Speak-up forum on this subject. What has the county done so far regarding this? Well, it's impressive.....for one thing, every yearly budget they assign our taxpayer $$ to conduct a "study" on the problem. The only other actions that I've seen the county take are to allow Cox to breach their contract for years, remove specific comments from our above mentioned threads on this forum, and pretty much just ignore the problem and hope it goes away.

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David Hall 4 months ago

Thanks Mark, Now I understand a little more as to why my Real-estate agents are not coming up with places to look at since HS, uncapped Internet is the highest priority. Just finding if it is available is unreliable and sometimes down right impossible.

I would seem that had Cox fulfilled their contract, there would be more customers and they would not have closed their store. I was actually sent there by Cox agent, only to find it had been closed.

You have to admit Gloucester has an impressive little web site. It appears shameful that it does not or can not support the majority of the people that it was Supposedly built for and that actually paid and paying for it. We like the area very much but need the unlimited HS Internet

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Mark Rakentine 4 months ago

David, We live in an area without cable access, but our cell service is good. So we went with the Verizon "LTE Installed" cellular internet cantennae about 3 years ago. I will say that the speeds are good, but the problem again was data limits... but, we have now moved this over to the new Verizon unlimited plan. This plan now gives us unlimited internet, but like most carriers, there is a change in performance after a certain amount of data is used (22GB). Speaking with Verizon, their claim is that they will not throttle speeds after the data plateau is reached (most carriers reduce to 3G service or less). Instead priority goes to users who are connected to your same tower, but have not yet reached their plateau. Verizon claims that this will not change your speeds when connected, just that there may be a slight connection lag prior to connecting. I still have to see how this works out once I reach the 22GB. This certainly doesn't solve the internet problem in the county that was created and left to fester by the elected officials, but it appears promising.

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David Hall 4 months ago

FYI, Just saw the ad on tv and stopped on the fine print. "Mobile hotspot/tethering reduced to 3G after 10GB/mo."

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Mark Rakentine 4 months ago

David, that could be an issue for some as that is related to using the actual cell phone service to create internet connections. I am referring to my use of the unlimited plan for Verizon's LTE Installed Internet plan. This internet is not using your cell phone as a hotspot (which we have never needed to do). Rather this is a separate plan, with a Cantennae installed on your home that uses the closest 4G signal to give you internet. The wireless modem that comes with this package is password protected and can accept up to 10 wireless connections in your home....so there is no need to use the cell phone as a hotspot. Good luck.

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M Westfall 4 months ago

Our neighborhood finally heard from the County/Cox regarding high speed Internet. The estimate is $390,608.98 for 7.05 service line miles. The cost is based on a joke of a map that a 3 year old could have created. What the County does not comprehend is that Cox is NOT servicing Gloucester County and its residents. So the question is -- why does the County continue to renew its contract with Cox? And, why is Gloucester County distributing a map, that if they had even bothered to review, would have clearly seen that it was seriously flawed and certainly not reviewed/prepared by engineers? Cox needs to be held to a higher standard and so do our county officials. Here is the ONLY solution they were able to offer – “While I understand the desire for a quick solution, there just is not a simple switch to flip. If you or other groups of citizens feel strongly that your elected leaders should raise taxes to fund cable expansion, then the time to voice that opinion is now as our community discusses the Fiscal Year 2018 budget. Contact your Board members independently or provide comment at a Board meeting (1st Tuesday of each month in the Colonial Courthouse starting at 7:00 pm). This expense is not currently included as a Capital Improvement Project (which public hearing was last week and which had a special forum on SpeakUp Gloucester that received very little feedback and none regarding broadband.”

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County Administration admin 4 months ago

M Westall - the map was a quick indication prepared by the County and conveyed to Cox to make sure they were providing estimates for the correct area. It is a screen capture of the neighborhoods, parcel lines, and structures shown on the County's GIS mapping tool. We requested that Cox provide estimates for two areas (surrounded by lines drawn with a yellow highlighter delineating the two areas to be served, Riverwatch and Bristow Beach - not to be confused with the routing of the service lines). Bristow Beach was included as there is a density of existing homes not present in Riverwatch and we thought it may improve the overall ratio of homes to service line miles. Cox provided the service line miles and cost to serve Riverwatch alone, and Riverwatch plus Bristow Beach. Neither area comes close to serving the 25 homes per service line mile required by the franchise agreement to have cable TV services extended at no cost to the subscriber. Riverwatch has 21 existing homes and the combined area has 110 existing homes.

Franchise agreements are entered into mutually by a locality and a cable TV provider. The County cannot force a provider into an agreement that they do not find to be acceptable. The current agreement will be up for renewal in 2021 and we will review all options at that time. In the near future, the County will continue to explore other avenues through which better internet connectivity can be made available to our citizens.

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Kenny Hogge Sr 4 months ago

Sounds like there will be more studies..........

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M Westfall 4 months ago

County Administration ~ it seems that if you were truly concerned about the residents without internet, an accurate map should have been created other than one based on a 'quick indication.' Based on the map, Cox quoted VERY specific pricing for a grand total as well as a ridiculous price per homeowner paying out of pocket. Might I suggest someone with experience actually leave their office, drive to the neighborhood and look at various options and then quote a more accurate price. Five minutes on Google maps can provide the same ‘quick indication’ you provided. Our HOA president offered several alternatives/solutions to the silly one indicated on your map, which could save on that 7.05 service miles quoted by you and Cox not to mention cost savings. In addition, our neighbor road, Harcum, is comparable so please explain why they have access to high speed internet and we do not. As a side note, I find it laughable the county expects residents to complete/participate in online forums, surveys, etc. and uses the internet as its primary communication tool for notifications (as you referenced). You are asking for feedback from those very residents who don't have access to high speed internet. If we do, it's unreliable, expensive and, to be honest, I doubt there are many who spend their budgeted internet allotment on the county’s various web sites. Also, the people who have high speed internet could care less about those without it and aren't spending their free time completing online surveys or writing messages such as this or attending board meetings asking for an increase in taxes to fund broadband. After all, they have access to high speed internet. 2021 is a long time to wait for a change in internet providers and when that time comes I am sure the contract with Cox will just be rubber-stamped. What is needed are options other than Cox to those who are ‘unserviceable’ and a willingness from the county to provide solutions.

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Seth Clark 29 days ago

Hello fellow citizens. I'm a new resident here in Gloucester and am discovering the difficulties of no HSI for myself. This forum seems the only place where Gloucester residents have a voice in the community and I would like to share my story.

Basically, I was lied to. Before I purchased my home, I was told by a Cox representative that cable and internet were available in my "area". Little did I know that the "area" they spoke of was Gloucester county and my particular residence was not covered. After conducting an investigation, Cox told me that the nearest hub was a mile away and that if I wanted cable it would cost me $12k out of pocket. They also told me that several residents in my area expressed interest in cable, but not enough for Cox to do anything about it. I feel cheated. Internet is a big part of my life. I have a $2000 gaming computer sitting in the corner, gathering dust. I'm not saying I wouldn't have bought the house anyway, but I definitely would have spent some more time searching. I don't even have decent cell coverage, so no wifi hotspot for me. I've had satellite internet before and will never do it again. It's insulting.

I've spent a lot of time researching what could be done in my situation. Many people in different states have had to suffer through the same thing, but they did resolve their issues. What it boils down to, is the county officials have to play hardball with the ISPs. Using the information from the above posts it sounds like we might even have a case. The question I would like to ask the county administration is this: Who do you care more about? The residents that you live side-by-side with? That you are responsible for serving? Or the ISP lobbyists that fill your pockets?

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County Administration admin 29 days ago

Broadband availability is important to County staff and elected leaders. While I understand it brings no immediate solution, the Center for Innovation and Technology (CIT) is getting ready to kick off a study using state / federal dollars. The study will contemplate various options to expand broadband availability, including but not limited to Cox expansion, wireless options (including potential to leverage regional initiatives and other nearby localities), and other options. Stay tuned ...

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M Westfall 29 days ago

Another study is only going to show the same findings. This will be the 5th survey I will have completed in six years. Also, will there ever be an update on the Middle Peninsula Planning District Commission's broadband expansion project? I understand broadband companies had two weeks to submit RFPs, but have not heard an update since then. As of last week there was no information on the web site. Is this another project announced just to make residents think something is being done? If if isn't, why is there never any communication or updates and a timeline given for proposed projects? Also, why do residents have to rely on this forum to get any and all news about broadband within the county?

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Mark Rakentine 29 days ago

Seth Clark...welcome to Gloucester. For several reasons, I wouldn't hold out any hope from the response that you have received here from "County Administration". First, I have an Inbox full of responses from the Board of Supervisors, dating back to 2006 that sound exactly like that. Second, a few years back CIT had already conducted a survey on the lack of HSI in our county....needless to say nothing came of it then or will come from it now. And third, the county budgets taxpayer money for "surveys" every year that lead to nothing. Another possible solution would be for Verizon or Sprint to expand their cell towers in the county...which probably won't happen right away. Then with good cell service you could take advantage of real unlimited cellular internet plans from companies like Unlimitedville, 4GAS Antennas etc. (which I have finally been able to do) So, realistically your only real option for internet in Gloucester may be to try and sell your home and move to an area that Cox already services. Good luck!

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Kenny Hogge Sr 29 days ago

I'm surprised County Administration did not brag about the new cox expansion that will soon take place in the northern part of Gloucester. 100 plus homes and 8 businesses I believe it is, will soon have broadband. State is paying part and cox is paying part, or so they say. I say we start our own county run enterprise ISP and kick cox out of the county. Then the county can collect internet fees like it collects water and sewer bills. The infrastructure would pay for itself if it were managed properly.

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Seth Clark 28 days ago

Speaking of this new expansion, they're using $390k to run 7 miles of cable. Seems a little underwhelming right? As I said earlier I was quoted $12k to for a 1 mile extension. I'm not a mathematician but something doesn't seem right. Using my quote as a rough estimate, $390k should garner at least 32 miles of cable. I'm even willing to give them the benefit of the doubt because I know nothing of running cable. We should still see at 20 miles of cable ran. This just seems like a huge misappropriation of funds. Is there any public official that's ensuring Cox isn't swindling us? (More than they already are.)

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Co MMcCann at June 09, 2017 at 12:20pm EDT

As a Bristow Beach resident I have to chime in, there is no high speed internet here or at Riverwatch either I believe. There were rumors last September about it but that's all it was...rumors. I'm tired of the wasteful and beyond ridiculous surveys. The one on the back page (and online, ironic much) of the Beehive last year was a joke. And now we have yet another one. I'm not listening to the bureaucratic canned answers of the County admin anymore. Where did the federal funding go? It sure didn't help us like it was supposed to and obviously the county doesn't care. They just keep putting us off with survey after survey. Can't we take the fight somewhere else above them?

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Co MMcCann at June 09, 2017 at 1:08pm EDT

Hasn't anyone heard or tried this route?

https://www.wired.virginia.gov/toolkit The Office of Telework Promotion and Broadband Assistance.

I would be more willing to play an active part in something like this rather than waiting on something to be done by the County (2021-I don't think so). As a previous poster, K Boggs Sr, suggested start our own! The above link under Funding lists that as one of three ways to go. Maybe while the county is doing yet another survey, we can get some actual results. Is anyone here be interested in talking about pursuing this?

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D Hunley at June 09, 2017 at 4:30pm EDT

I wish I could delete my link to this ridiculous site. I have done the "delete" routine several times to no avail. Now, anytime a new post is made I get 4 e-mails reminding me of how irritated I am with this whole situation. Pitiful is being too kind.

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